8.22 Acres in The Cove Area of Lucerne Valley, CA Seller Financing available Welcome to 8.22 acres in the highly desirable Cove Area of Lucerne Valley, a property offering both adventure and opportunity. This land is a moto enthusiasts paradiseperfect for motorcycles, ATVs, and Can-Amswhile also offering the potential to build your dream home in a private and peaceful setting. Enjoy 360-degree panoramic mountain views, including a unique hillside vantage point right on the property. Despite its quiet, rural feel, this parcel is conveniently located: only 6 miles from Lucerne Valley town and US Highway 18, about 2 miles from paved Cove Road to the south, and just 2 miles from Highway 247 leading toward Barstow. Downtown Lucerne Valley is only a 1015-minute drive away. The seller may carry with 50% down and is also open to property exchanges, creating multiple paths to ownership. Dont miss the chance to secure this versatile piece of land in one of Lucerne Valleys most sought-after areas. APN: 0452-011-25-0000 GPS Coordinates: 34.518018, -116.976953

LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION! This corner lot has everything available to build your custom home, including power adjacent, water company access, natural gas availability, and paved roads. It is located just a half mile from Hwy 18 for an easy commute to Apple Valley, Hesperia, and the I-15 freeway. Need more land? There are several other parcels in this immediate neighborhood available. This property could also be a great long term investment. Drive by today and submit your offer. This property does not have an address assigned. 723 Clark Rd" is for listing purposes only. APN# 0451-221-11-0000 Coordinates: 34.436085 Longitude -116.984169

2.79-acre industrial-zoned parcel in Lancaster's growing Antelope Valley just 1.2 miles from Highway 14 and close to General William Jo Fox Airfield. Level desert terrain with typical shrub vegetation offers immediate development potential on flat topography. Property requires solar, septic, and well installation but benefits from Lancaster's solar-friendly policies and established utility infrastructure. Primitive road access with paved roads 0.16 miles south (W Ave G) and 0.30 miles east (30th St W). Located in Los Angeles County's high desert region with proximity to Apollo Park and aerospace corridor. Ideal for industrial development, storage, or off-grid projects. Easy commute access to Palmdale and LA metro areas via SR-14. Lancaster's pro-development stance and renewable energy focus make this an excellent investment opportunity in a market showing steady growth and infrastructure improvements.

Exceptional 5.04-acre opportunity in growing Lancaster area with A-1 Light Agricultural zoning allowing diverse uses. Level desert terrain perfect for custom home, hobby farm, or investment hold. Convenient dirt road access suitable for regular vehicles. Power line approximately 1,000 feet away - buyer to verify connection feasibility. Well and septic needed for off-grid living. Lancaster offers excellent shopping, schools, and recreational amenities including Antelope Valley Poppy Reserve and numerous hiking trails. Area experiencing significant growth with thousands of new homes and commercial developments planned, driving long-term appreciation potential. Flat topography with mountain views and clear desert air at 2,350+ foot elevation. Perfect for buyers seeking space, privacy, and development potential in established community with strong job market in aerospace, logistics, and renewable energy sectors. Coordinates 34.79023, -118.23366 for easy location. Priced to move at $26,900 for quick sale.

Investment Opportunity in Thermal, California! Position yourself in a region on the rise with this prime lot in Thermal. All utilities are available at the street, making future development more accessible. The area is quiet and tranquil, yet its part of the fast-growing Coachella Valley where business and investment opportunities continue to expand. Thermal is gaining attention not only for its residential growth but also for its proximity to the Imperial Valley and the emerging lithium industry a critical resource powering the future of clean energy. Owning land here means securing a foothold in a region where demand and development are expected to accelerate. Whether youre looking to build, hold, or invest for long-term potential, this property offers a smart entry point into a growing market.

LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION! This corner lot has everything available to build your custom home, including power adjacent, water company access, natural gas availability, and paved roads. It is located just a half mile from Hwy 18 for an easy commute to Apple Valley, Hesperia, and the I-15 freeway. Need more land? There are several other parcels in this immediate neighborhood available. This property could also be a great long term investment. Drive by today and submit your offer. This property does not have an address assigned. 720 Kingsley St" is for listing purposes only. APN# 0451-221-09-0000 Coordinates:34.434725 Longitude -116.981167

Industrial zoned 1.26 acres in Lancaster's growing Antelope Valley market offers development potential at $19,000. Level desert terrain with typical shrub vegetation provides solid foundation for industrial projects. Solar, septic and well required. Property is landlocked requiring easement establishment approximately 680 feet to W Ave F 8 dirt road. Located near General William J Fox Airfield and Apollo Park in Los Angeles County's business-friendly environment. Lancaster's renewable energy leadership and aerospace industry presence create strong industrial demand. Flat topography ideal for warehousing, manufacturing or energy projects. County industrial zoning permits various commercial uses. High desert location provides year-round sunshine for solar applications. Buyer to verify utilities, access rights and permitted uses. Priced for quick development opportunity in expanding Antelope Valley industrial corridor.

Approximately 158 acres of prime land located along the highly desirable E. Clark Avenue corridor in the Orcutt area of Santa Maria, positioned adjacent to a well-known Central Coast winery and within close proximity to planned hospitality and cultural developments. The property features a combination of usable and elevated terrain offering panoramic valley and coastal views. With its size, location, and accessibility, the property presents a range of potential uses including equestrian facilities, vineyard estate, resort/hospitality concepts, private compound, or future residential development (buyer to verify with county). Improvements include established access roads and on-site water resources. Large, contiguous parcels of this scale in a high-growth corridor are increasingly rare, offering a unique opportunity for investors, developers, or end users seeking long-term potential in Californias Central Coast.

Flat 0.11-acre residential lot in Needles, CA with paved road access and electricity available at the street an affordable entry point into one of California's most accessible tri-state gateway communities. Located near the intersection of Interstate 40 and US-95, this 5,000 sq ft parcel sits minutes from the Colorado River, Havasu National Wildlife Refuge, and open desert terrain, offering year-round outdoor recreation alongside everyday conveniences including schools and local shopping. The level terrain and paved frontage make for straightforward building conditions, reducing site prep costs for buyers looking to construct a primary residence, vacation retreat, or investment rental. Water and septic availability to be verified by buyer. Zoned residential vacant land, the parcel is positioned in a market that has seen consistent property value appreciation driven by housing demand, regional tourism, and the area's growing economy. With Arizona and Nevada both within easy reach, Needles draws buyers seeking affordable land with regional connectivity. APN: 0185-186-02-0000. Listed at $18,500.

2.5-acre flat desert parcel in Rosamond, Kern County (APN: 474-111-04-00-6). Residential suburban zoning supports single-family home, manufactured housing, accessory structures, home-based businesses, and agricultural use. No HOA. County-maintained dirt road access via Champagne Road, 2 miles to paved Tehachapi Willow Springs Road. Power lines across the road; well and septic installation required. Desert vegetation at 34.91843, -118.32646. Approximately 9 miles from Highway 14, 15 miles to Lancaster and Palmdale, 25 miles to Edwards Air Force Base. Near Antelope Valley Poppy Reserve and Willow Springs Raceway. Priced at $10,000. Buyer to verify all utilities, zoning, and access with Kern County.

5.47 acres in Lucerne Valley with easy access just off Highway 18 near Camp Rock Rd. Zoned LV/RC, this property offers a lot of flexibility for future planswhether you're looking to build, invest, or just have your own space in the desert. Enjoy wide-open views, peaceful surroundings, and plenty of room to make it your own, all while still being conveniently located. A great opportunity to own a versatile piece of the High Desert.

Excellent opportunity to own two adjacent lots totaling 0.30 acres just 2 miles from historic downtown Julian. This property provides a rare blend of convenience and privacy, offering quick access to Julians shops, dining, and attractions while being tucked away in a peaceful mountain setting. Property Highlights Stunning view of the mountains Two side-by-side parcels (0.30 acres combined) Electric pole located next to the property Main water line running in front of the lots Septic system required for development Year-round accessibility with close proximity to paved roads Location Julian is a sought-after mountain town known for its small town charm, apple orchards, cider, and renowned seasonal festivities. Residents enjoy cooler mountain weather, the possibility of winter snow, and an exceptional sense of community. While offering a quieter lifestyle, the property is just a 45-minute drive from major city amenities. Potential With utilities nearby and an ideal location, this lot presents an excellent opportunity to build a custom home or vacation retreat in one of Southern Californias most desirable mountain communities. GPS Coordinates 33.069808 -116.576577

Own 2.12 acres of level A-2 Heavy Agricultural zoned land in Lancaster's growing Antelope Valley with power lines at front and highway proximity. This flat desert parcel offers excellent development potential with desert view across the high desert landscape. Property sits adjacent to Highway 138. Specific lot access requires determination. Power available for connection at front boundary while septic and well installation needed for full utility service. Located in Los Angeles County's fastest-growing desert region with 280+ sunny days annually, convenient shopping, recreation at California Poppy Reserve, and strong aerospace/manufacturing economy. Level terrain eliminates grading costs for future construction while A-2 zoning allows diverse agricultural and residential uses. Lancaster offers renewable energy programs, fiber internet infrastructure, and proximity to Palmdale's proposed high-speed rail development. Perfect for custom home builders, agricultural ventures, or investors seeking affordable acreage in Southern California's expanding high desert market. Easy highway access to Los Angeles metro area while maintaining rural desert lifestyle with mountain backdrops and clear starry skies.

Nine acres. Two parcels. One extraordinary opportunity.Perched high above Altadena where the San Gabriel Mountains meet the sky, 4700 Risinghill Road is one of Altadena's most coveted and seldom-available parcels. An extraordinary nine acres of estate land with sweeping views stretching from the glittering lights of downtown Pasadena all the way to Catalina Island.Privately held for years, this rare two-parcel property is offered separately but available together. Encompassing 9.045 acres of native oak woodland embraced by national forest, where deer and red-tailed hawks are your closest neighbors, the property features multiple flat building pads, paved road access, and a private on-site well already in place. Soils, topographic, and other reports are available upon request.Whether you envision a private family compound or a signature estate home, the canvas is here and ready for your imagination. Buyer must verify development potential with Los Angeles County.And the timing could not be more meaningful. Altadena is rising. This remarkable community long celebrated for its creative spirit, architectural soul, and unmatched sense of belonging is rebuilding with purpose, vision, and an energy that draws people from across Southern California. New homes are going up. Beloved gathering places are reopening. Restaurants, boutiques, coffee houses, and neighborhood bars are welcoming people back. World-class architects and community organizations are shaping a new Altadena that honors everything that made it extraordinary in the first place. This is a community that does not simp

5.5 Acres (APN: 0585-232-10 & 0585-232-17) GPS: 34.09864, -116.50184 This VIEW lot is located in Morongo Valley, CA. This property has BEAUTIFUL views over the valley. The city of Morongo Valley has zoned the property as 'Morongo Valley / Rural Living' (MV/RL). The listing includes two parcels, a 3.6 acre and 1.8 acre parcel. Two small foundations exist on the property. Overhead power is available on the property. Nestled in the scenic High Desert just 20 minutes from Joshua Tree National Park and an hour from the Coachella Valley, Morongo Valley provides a serene lifestyle away from urban hustle while still being accessible to nearby amenities and entertainment. With its vast landscapes, panoramic mountain views, and abundant wildlife, the area appeals to those who appreciate nature and outdoor recreation. Additionally, Morongo Valley's relatively affordable land and property prices make it an attractive choice for building a custom home, providing the opportunity to create a private desert oasis tailored to your lifestyle. Whether you're looking for a primary residence, vacation retreat, or investment property, Morongo Valley offers a peaceful, scenic setting with the potential for appreciation as the demand for Southern California desert living continues to grow. While the boundary lines on the map offer a glimpse, they are only approximate. A Buyer should verify boundaries, zoning and utilities, ensuring every aspect aligns with their vision for the property.

5 acres in Lucerne Valley with easy access just off Highway 18 near Camp Rock Rd. Zoned LV/RC, this property offers a lot of flexibility for future planswhether you're looking to build, invest, or just have your own space in the desert. Enjoy wide-open views, peaceful surroundings, and plenty of room to make it your own. A great opportunity to own a versatile piece of the High Desert.

Large Residential Land for Sale - Over Four Acres of Private Flat Land Near San Timoteo Canyon! 360 Mountain and Hillside Views! Enjoy solitude & serenity in a quiet, peaceful setting. Watch the sunset over gorgeous foothills every night. Includes THREE parcels of land in South Redlands. Hike nearby Carriage Trail. Just a few minutes south of Redlands Community Hospital.

PRICE REDUCTION on a Corner Lot! 38.18 Acres (APN: 0600-131-06) GPS: 34.178412, -116.30816 This corner lot is located in Joshua Tree, CA. San Bernardino County has zoned this property Joshua Tree/Rural Living (JT/RL). This zoning allows for properties to be subdivided into 2.5 acre residential parcels or build your dream home on a large lot. Overhead electricity is available on site (along Sunburst St) as well as across Golden St. The Joshua Basin Water District services the area and provides water in the street along both Sunburst and Golden St. Residents have septic tanks for their sewer needs. Living in Joshua Tree, CA, offers a unique blend of natural beauty and laid-back desert living. Imagine building your desert getaway and waking up to bright desert sunrises, panoramic views of rugged mountains, or dark starry nights. Endless opportunities for outdoor adventures are a short drive away in Joshua Tree National Park. There's always something exciting to explore. Plus, the tight-knit community fosters a sense of belonging, with local shops, art galleries, and events showcasing the area's vibrant culture. Whether you're seeking tranquility or adventure, Joshua Tree welcomes you with open arms. This property does not yet have an address. While the boundary lines on the map offer a glimpse, they are only approximate. A Buyer should verify boundaries, zoning and utilities, ensuring every aspect aligns with their vision for the property.

Two contiguous parcels totaling 10.01 acres in the sought-after hills of Bonsall present a rare opportunity to create a private estate, compound, or long-term investment hold. APNs 125-250-21-00 (2.35 acres, Rural Residential) and 125-250-22-00 (7.66 acres, Rural Residential) BOTH with Animal Designation "L" are offered together, combining flexibility, scale, and potential. Positioned with gated, paved road access and convenient proximity to Highway 76, the property offers both accessibility and a quiet, rural setting surrounded by established custom homes and estate properties. The land captures sweeping panoramic 360-degree views, including views extending to the Pacific Ocean and rolling hills with natural landscape, creating a sense of privacy and elevation that is increasingly difficult to find in North County. Water and electricity are adjactent to the property, ready to connect and begin your development. The combination of residential and agricultural zoning allows for a range of potential usesdesign and build a custom estate, create a multi-generational compound, incorporate agricultural elements such as groves or vineyards, or utilize the land for equestrian or open-space purposes. The layout and size provide flexibility for thoughtful site planning while maintaining privacy and maximizing view corridors. The parcel configuration offers multiple potential building areas, allowing for strategic placement of a residence to take full advantage of views, privacy, and overall usability of the land. Surrounded by high-quality custom homes, the property benefits from str

Finding land that's uncommonly flat is like finding a needle in a haystack in the San Bernardino mountains. However, this beautifully quiet and very gentle piece of land offers exactly that and, even better, it's also secretly tucked away within a very prestigious part of Running Springs far from the hustle and bustle of Downtown Running Springs but near enough to access those essential amenities. Just minutes from The Charles Hoffman School and Snow Valley and 1 hr 40 minutes to Los Angeles. Zoned HT-RS1 which means that, an addition to a primary single-family residence (manufactured home, tiny home), a combination of two of the following additional accessory units would be allowed including a church. Everything considered, this is a most rare and exciting opportunity!

Industrial opportunity on 2.54 acres in Lancaster with M-1 Light Manufacturing zoning just 0.3 miles from Antelope Valley Freeway. Level desert terrain offers excellent access for commercial development, storage, or light industrial uses. Dirt road frontage with flat topography makes site preparation straightforward. Off-grid utilities required. Prime location in growing Antelope Valley market with easy freeway access for logistics and distribution operations. Ideal for investors seeking affordable industrial land in Los Angeles County. Drive by anytime - coordinates 34.77258, -118.17449.

Excellent opportunity to obtain a well-located residential development parcel in western Merced County. 2.20 gross acres located in Gustine, California. Zoned R-4 (Multiple Residential), the property offers potential for higher density residential development. The parcel is positioned along Highway 33 near Santa Nella Road, providing strong visibility and access. Located behind an established national retailer and near a public park, the property benefits from consistent local traffic and surrounding residential density. City of Gustine water is available. Utilities provided by PG&E. The property was previously zoned commercial and may present potential for rezoning or a mixed-use configuration, including possible commercial use along the frontage, subject to buyer investigation and City approval. Great opportunity to obtain a flexible development site in a growing Central Valley community with strong regional access to Interstate 5.

4-UNIT RTI WITH PAID PERMITS | SB8 CLEARED | SHOVEL READY | CORNER LOT | DELIVERED VACANT | Rana Khanjani with Sync Brokerage is proud to present this Exceptional value-add and development opportunity in the Pico-Union / Koreatown corridor. Existing vacant triplex situated on a 6,290 SF lot. Comes with fully approved RTI plans and approximately $70,000 in paid permitsno entitlement risk and ready to build immediately. Approved plans feature a 4-unit project with an attractive unit mix: (2) 5-bed + office / 5-bath units and (2) 4-bed / 5-bath units, each with private 2-car garages and en-suite bathrooms throughout, designed for co-living or high-demand rental use. Gross Building Area is 8,202 SF, Prime central location near Koreatown, Downtown LA, USC, and major freeways (I-10 & I-110), making this an ideal build-to-sell or long-term hold opportunity. Renderings may not entirely reflect final plans. Please contact the listing agent for more details. WITH AN ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD ADUs.

0.92 Acres (APN: 0595-122-40) GPS: 34.12453, -116.42428 This residential lot is located in Yucca Valley, CA. The city of Yucca Valley has zoned the property as 'Residential, Single Family 2.1-5 units per acre' (R-S-5). The planning department says the lot is build-able and suggests that because the neighborhood is in a 100 year flood zone an engineer should review. Hi-Desert Water District provides water for the neighborhood. Overhead power is available on the property line. Living in Yucca Valley, CA, offers the perfect blend of desert charm and modern conveniences. Imagine waking up to the gentle rustle of Joshua trees and the warm desert sun casting its glow over the landscape. With easy access to Joshua Tree National Park, residents can explore miles of hiking trails, marvel at unique rock formations, and experience the awe-inspiring beauty of the desert. Yucca Valley's vibrant community scene boasts eclectic shops, delicious eateries, and local art galleries, providing endless opportunities for exploration and connection. Whether you're seeking adventure in the great outdoors or a cozy night in with friends, Yucca Valley welcomes you with open arms and the promise of a fulfilling desert lifestyle. While the boundary lines on the map offer a glimpse, they are only approximate. A Buyer should verify boundaries, zoning and utilities, ensuring every aspect aligns with their vision for the property.

4.75-acre parcel in Yokuts Valley, Fresno County (APN: 190-380-44). Zoned AE-5, supporting agricultural and residential use in one of the Sierra Nevada foothills' most scenic rural corridors. Located in the Squaw Valley-Miramonte AVA wine country region, this elevated property sits at 1,631 feet in the coveted above-fog, below-snow zone with panoramic views of the Sierra Nevada mountains and surrounding rolling hills. Dual access via Chuckwalla Road and Pintail adds flexibility for development and site planning. Power lines in the area; well and septic installation required. Located at 36.689208, -119.127573, approximately 30 miles east of Fresno and 9 miles from Orange Cove. Positioned near the Kings Canyon National Park entrance with Yosemite National Park about an hour away and Sierra National Forest adjacent to the area making this a practical base for year-round outdoor recreation. Whether you're planning a custom home, agricultural venture, weekend retreat, or off-grid lifestyle, this parcel offers acreage, elevation, and access in a region where properties of this size and character are increasingly hard to find. Priced at $59,900. Buyer to verify all utilities, zoning, and access with Fresno County.

2 parcels, both 2.5 acres each in Lucerne Valley just off Highway 18 near Camp Rock Rd. Zoned LV/RC, this property offers a lot of flexibility for future planswhether you're looking to build, invest, or just have your own space in the desert. Enjoy wide-open views, peaceful surroundings, and plenty of room to make it your own, all while still being conveniently located. A great opportunity to own a versatile piece of the High Desert.

2.31 Acres (APN: 0587-242-04) GPS: 34.1089, -116.41755 This VIEW lot is located in Yucca Valley, CA. This property has AMAZING views over the valley. The city of Yucca Valley has zoned the property as 'Rural Residential' (RR-0.5). The property could be subdivided into 0.5 acre parcels. Hi-Desert Water District provides water for the neighborhood. Overhead power is available on the property line. Living in Yucca Valley, CA, offers the perfect blend of desert charm and modern conveniences. Imagine waking up to the gentle rustle of Joshua trees and the warm desert sun casting its glow over the landscape. With easy access to Joshua Tree National Park, residents can explore miles of hiking trails, marvel at unique rock formations, and experience the awe-inspiring beauty of the desert. Yucca Valley's vibrant community scene boasts eclectic shops, delicious eateries, and local art galleries, providing endless opportunities for exploration and connection. Whether you're seeking adventure in the great outdoors or a cozy night in with friends, Yucca Valley welcomes you with open arms and the promise of a fulfilling desert lifestyle. While the boundary lines on the map offer a glimpse, they are only approximate. A Buyer should verify boundaries, zoning and utilities, ensuring every aspect aligns with their vision for the property.

Residential Lot, 0.44 Acres (APN: 0600-151-02) GPS: 34.170816, -116.31373 This residential lot is located in Joshua Tree, CA. Joshua Tree is in San Bernardino County about 2.5 hours from the LA area. San Bernardino County has zoned this property Joshua Tree/Residential (JT/RS-14M) with 14,000 sq ft lots. This single family zoning is ready for you to build your dream home. Overhead electricity is available on the lot. Joshua Basin Water District services the area and provides water in the street. Residents have septic tanks for their sewer needs. This property does not yet have an address. While the boundary lines on the map offer a glimpse, they are only approximate. A Buyer should verify boundaries, zoning and utilities, ensuring every aspect aligns with their vision for the property.

PRICE REDUCTION - Approx 0.37 Miles of Hwy Frontage, 3 Parcels, combined 119.21 Acres (APN: 0601-231-11, 0601-231-14, 0601-231-15) GPS: 34.135198, -116.33493 These properties are located in Joshua Tree, CA. San Bernardino County has zoned this property both Joshua Tree/Rural Living (JT/RL) and Joshua Tree Multiple Residential (JT/RM). There is approx 90 acres of RL zoning, this zoning can be subdivided into 1 until per 2.5 acres. There is approx 30 acres of RM zoning, which allows for approx 20 units per acre. The property has both a 115 KV power line along the highway and also along Sunny Vista Rd. There is also a residential electricity line on the property running on site (parallel to the highway approx 240 ft north of the 115 KV line). The Joshua Basin Water District services the area and has a water line across the street, along Sunny Vista Rd. Residents have septic tanks for their sewer needs. The properties have a blue line running parallel to the highway with a small portion of DWR Awareness area on parcel 0601-231-11, and a portion of the northern parcels in the 500 year floodplain. These properties are only a mile west of downtown Joshua Tree, a 10 minute drive away from the Joshua Tree National Park entrance and 27 minutes from 29 Palms Marine Corp Base. Pioneertown is also only a 16 minute drive. Living in Joshua Tree, CA, offers a unique blend of natural beauty and laid-back desert living. Imagine building your desert getaway and waking up to bright desert sunrises, panoramic views of rugged mountains, or dark starry nights. Endless opportunities for outdoor ad

Nine acres. Two parcels. One extraordinary opportunity.Perched high above Altadena where the San Gabriel Mountains meet the sky, 4700 Rising Hill Road is one of Altadena's most coveted and seldom-available parcels. An extraordinary nine acres of estate land with sweeping views stretching from the glittering lights of downtown Pasadena all the way to Catalina Island.Privately held for years, this rare two-parcel property is offered separately but available together. Encompassing 9.045 acres of native oak woodland embraced by national forest, where deer and red-tailed hawks are your closest neighbors, the property features multiple flat building pads, paved road access, and a private on-site well already in place. Soils, topographic, and other reports are available upon request.Whether you envision a private family compound or a signature estate home, the canvas is here and ready for your imagination. Buyer must verify development potential with Los Angeles County.And the timing could not be more meaningful. Altadena is rising. This remarkable community long celebrated for its creative spirit, architectural soul, and unmatched sense of belonging is rebuilding with purpose, vision, and an energy that draws people from across Southern California. New homes are going up. Beloved gathering places are reopening. Restaurants, boutiques, coffee houses, and neighborhood bars are welcoming people back. World-class architects and community organizations are shaping a new Altadena that honors everything that made it extraordinary in the first place. This is a community that does not sim